Articles
Buzzing
Evolutionists
By
Karl C. Priest 11-10-08 (Revised 12-29-08)
A
few years ago, after fighting some local
battles, Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo and I concluded that the time
had come to confront evolutionists in a way they had never experienced.
The ways of ICR, AiG (for example), and even Kent Hovind had (and
have) their place, but (as the saying goes) "if you do the
same old thing you will get the same old results."
After a local (and vocal) atheist used a "top" scientist
(Dr. Massimo Pigliucci.) in a discussion with me Dr. Mastropaolo
offered assistance by challenging the Pigliucci.to debate. (During
some of my local
battles Dr. Mastropaolo had issued debate challenges to local
extreme evolutionists.) Then, some obscure skeptics jumped on one
of my articles. http://www.insectman.us/articles/karls/two-bugs-swatted.htm
They received the challenge and quickly became mute. It became obvious
that evolutionists are "all hat and no ranch", so (as
they say on the streets) "it was on." The Life Science
Prize was born.
D. Mastropaolo and I only select obnoxious and/or prominently publicized
evolutionists to challenge.
Most of those challenged ignore us and hope the truth of their intellectual
cowardice will go away especially (and unfortunately) since most
leading creationists want to keep on doing what they have always
done. After all, it keeps the donations coming into the creationist
ministries and the battle is never ending. A never ending battle
is unacceptable because each year hundreds of thousands of children
are indoctrinated in a worldview that is seriously harmful (even
spiritually fatal) to them.
A few evolutionists (like Dogmatic
Dawkins) make the mistake of engaging us in dialogue. They usually
do it in a mocking way thinking their (in their minds) superior
intellect will prevail. The Q/A
section of the Life
Science Prize is based upon many (as well as several sincere
questions form honest folks) of the evolutionists' sneering attempts
to belittle me and Dr. Mastropaolo.
Some
of the bluffers really get bugged. The evolutionist (arguably) main
Internet site, TalkOrigins, designated a response to the Life Science
Prize at http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA343.html. One of
the dodgers, Dr. Michael Zimmerman, posted a response (http://ncseweb.org/rncse/25/5-6/life-science-prize)
on the website of the spearhead anti-creation organization--the
mis-named National Center for Science Education. Dr. Kevin R. Henke.
Cried to the liberal West Virginia Attorney General who, amazingly,
wasted several hours of the valuable time of a West Virginia State
Trooper who had to come and investigate me for fraud! (I guarantee
you that the West Virginia State Police have better things to do.)
One of the
funniest incidents was whn Dr. Brahama D. Sharma, in the midst of
an email exchange, told Dr. Mastropaolo, “I will sue you.
Get prepared.”
Dr. Mastropaolo’s
response is a classic example of wit and courage. He responded:
Dear
Dr. Sharma:
You have threatened me with, "I will sue you." Then, you
advise, "Get prepared."
Before
you begin, my advice is to consult your attorney. You may find his
legal fees in excess of $10,000 with little hope of recovering them
or punitive damages from me. He also may remind you that the courts
frown on trivial lawsuits and may rule attorneys fees and damages
against you.
Contrarily,
if you use that $10,000 for your entry fee for a Life Science Prize
mini-trial, you have the possibility of collecting your
fee plus mine if you have the requisite scientific evidence. Not
only that, but you may collect the $1000 reward for finding an evolutionist
champion that has contended for the Life Science Prize. Furthermore,
the Prize may be won ad libitum, not just once like a lawsuit, and
you may continually win it until your wealth becomes burdensome
or until you feel you have punished me sufficiently for whatever
slights, real or imagined, you perceive I have committed. Additionally
should you win, the publicity is likely to make you world famous
amongst your evolutionist colleagues, for none of more than 269,000
of them had the courage or acumen to do what you would have accomplished.
In
summary, sue and you likely lose tens of thousands with little or
no return monetarily or in satisfaction. Contend for the Life Science
Prizes and potentially win scores of thousands with enormous satisfaction
and worldwide fame.
Let
me know which you prefer. If you prefer the lawsuit, please have
your attorney contact me with the complaint. If you intend to contend
for the Life Science Prize, then please indicate that you have your
$10,000 ready to hand the judge and that you are committed to abiding
by the rules (http://www.csulb.edu/~jmastrop/prize.html).
Either way,
I am prepared and look forward to our day(s) in court.
Best wishes.
Joseph Mastropaolo
In 2008 two evolutionist extremist were brought to my attention
via an Answers in Genesis fund raising letter.
Dr. Arthur Caplan is (as far as I can tell) is an atheist and Dr.
Karl Giberson is a professing Christian.
Much to my (pleasant) surprise both of those true believers responded.
Perhaps evolutionists felt braver due to the 2008 liberal political
power. Or, maybe evolutionists were getting irritable as their big
year (2009) approaches and Darwinism is dangling by a thread of
censorship and abuse of authority. Whatever the reason, you have
gotten to see classic examples of how evolutionists respond to the
Life Science Prize challenge.
Anyway,
Caplan (by derision) and Giberson (by diversion) provide classic
examples of how evolutionists react when forced to face a demand
to defend Darwinism with science in a fair venue.
Let’s
first take a look at Caplan’s reactions. He cried “fraud”
and tried to claim the Dover (PA) decision as a life preserver.
When he realized that Dover was irrelevant he continued to use “fraud”
as an argument and got real personal when he told me, “You
sir are a despicable fraud.”
To
which I replied:
It
is interesting to be called “sir” and a “despicable
fraud” at the same time.
Name
calling will not get you out of the predicament in which find yourself.
You
bragged, you were challenged on your bragging, then you dodged the
contest your bragging instigated. When you call for a contest, then
decline to compete, you have lost by default. Even six-year-olds
know that.
That’s
not fraud. That’s the truth.
If it will bolster your confidence, you may form a team that includes
Judge Jones and all who testified at the Dover debacle. In fact,
your team may consist of all true believers in evolutionism—worldwide.
I
trust you will share our complete email exchange with your students.
The
last line of my email was in reference to Caplan’s comment
(in the email where he called me “despicable”): “I
use your rules and debate terms in all of my classes now as examples
of the lies of creationists and I thank for the example. My students
now refer to the Life Science Prize as (sic) hoax.”
Well.
I’d love for Dr. Caplan’s students to hear both his impotent
bluff and our potent stuff. After all, until I got fed up with the
blatant lie that evolutionism is, I sought to allow public school
students to hear evidence both for and aginst evolution. I believe,
if put on a level playing field, truth will always prevail.
So, after receiving
a curt, “You are, sir, quite simply a fraud. My students fully
understand that.” I responded with:
To
paraphrase Dr. Mastropaolo: You said you had a jumping frog that
can beat our jumping frog but you refused to put you money where
your mouth is. If you say you have a runner who can beat our runner,
or a jumper who can jump higher than our jumper, let's put them
on a level playing field and see. The proof is in the results of
the contest.
Your
students may be impressed with your hot air.
Do
you give me your word of honor that you will provide a copy of our
entire email exchange?
If
you do not advise your students with ALL of the facts, you not only
are a purveyor of anti-science (I like Dr. Mastropaolo’s description
below), but would become a hypocrite regarding academic honesty.
I
agree with Dr. Mastropaolo that “Evolution is a zillion times
more impossible than the Blue Fairy, the Witch of the North, Aladdin's
genies, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, the Headless Horseman, and
the mathematical definition of impossible all put together.”
Please
tell your students that they have permission to contact me or Dr.
Mastropaolo.
Either
of us would be happy to point them toward actual observable reality
science.
Finally,
I grew weary of Dr. Caplan’s irrational behavior and told
him:
If
you have any integrity you will allow your students to see each
and every part of our email exchange.
I
hope someone gets the word to Dr. Caplan’s poor brain-washed
students.
Now,
let’s look at the professing Christian and theistic evolutionist--Dr.
Karl Giberson.
He tried the
diversion tactic.
First,
he tried to take over the challenge with an “acceptance”,
but under his terms. He refused to verify that he accepted the rules
and had $10,000 ready to hand the judge. That exchange was with
Dr. Mastropolo. With me, Giberson exhibited snobbishness by saying
(regarding a suggested mid-point location), “Are Dr. Mastropaolo's
arguments somehow only valid in some academically impoverished backwater
in the rural south?”
That
insulting comment motivated me to ask Giberson to “please
tell me what you (as a scientist and a Christian) think about the
fact that Massachusetts has an interest in promoting homosexuality
to children.”
That
gave Dr. Giberson a straw to grasp and he said, “I am quite
proud to live in a state like Massachusetts that believes hateful
and anti-Christlike persecution of gay people is wrong. Just as
Jesus did not condemn gays, neither do we here in the educational
capital of the country.”
I responded
with some questions which Dr. Giberson would not answer. Here are
the questions and the reader should easily discern why the “Christian”
Dr. Giberson wold not answer.
You
failed to respond to my queries with direct answers, so let me be
more specific and assume you will answer forthrightly.
Do
you have prejudice against Southerners? Are we less intelligent
than New Englanders?
Would
you condemn a motto of a university that says, “Truth for
Christ and his Church”?
I
do not hate homosexuals and know of no Christians who do.
Is
anal intercourse a normal and healthy practice? If not, why should
society accept the non-Biblical marriage of two men?
Is
Jesus God? Did God inspire the Bible? Does the Bible condemn sodomy?
Please
do not dodge those questions. All are simple and can be answered
without equivocation. Evolutionists, without any science, are forced
to deride (like Caplan) or divert (like Giberson). The LSP ends
all of their hot air escapades.
Caplan
and Giberson represent perfect examples of what Dr. Mastropaolo
and I have dealt with for 10 years.
There are enough Darwinian Disciples on the Debate Dodger list to
easily gather $10,000 and take on Dr. Mastropaolo just to shut us
up.
They do not, because they would lose and they know it.
Evolution only survives by censorship and persecution.
Despite
the frantic swatting, as long as God gives us strength, Dr. Mastropaolo
and I will continue to buzz
evolutionists.
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