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EVOLUTION IS A LIE


Barry the Bluffer Takes a Swat at the Insectman

Complied by Karl Priest 3-29-13

As a result of the publicity surrounding the announcement of the Literal Genesis Trial Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo was contacted by numerous bluffers. One was a guy named Barry. I became aware of Barry after receiving a copy of his 3/24/2013 1:26:17 P.M. email. What follows is the unedited email exchange. (There may be a missing email from Barry between my 3/25/2013 9:10:17 P.M. and 3/26/2013 1:43:33 P.M. emails.)

Read and observe the strength of the argument for evolutionism. I allowed Barry to have the last word.

I provide. You decide.

NOTE: THE LIFE SCIENCE PRIZE changed to LIFE SCIENCE TRIAL on 1-9-2016.

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NOTES

All times are Easter Delight Time.

Barry is not in the continental U.S. Karl and Nick are in EDT. Dr. Mastropaolo is in PDT.

CSHOF = Creation Science Hall of Fame

LSP = Life Science Prize

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Barry 3/24/2013 2:10:07 A.M.

I'm up for this. I will be arguing on the side of reason and sanity.

How is the Judge to be appointed?

Regards

CSHOF 3/24/2013 8:35:43 A.M.

Dear Barry,

Please contact Dr. Mastropaolo at jamastropaolo@gmail.com

Joseph Mastropaolo, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus
California State University, Long Beach
jamastropaolo@gmail.com
(714) 843-6387

I must tell you, Barry, that I much prefer for Dr M to wait until the Creation Science Hall of Fame promotion with a North Eastern Newspaper has been announced first, giving those "takers" to the contest fist preference and you second.

Dr. Mastropaolo, could you just take Barry's information and "hold off" until the CSHF promotion has been completed with the newspaper advertisement in the North East, US?

I wouldn't want anyone saying that the contest is a sham in the Newspaper because they had to wait until Barry has entered and completed the contest first. I should had waited for the Newspaper announcement before sending out the contest offer over the internet.

I thank the both of you for your understanding

Barry (to CSHOF) 3/24/2013 1:26:17 P.M.

Could you donate my $10,000 to the Khan Academy? https://www.khanacademy.org/donate Please ask them for a receipt and pass a copy to me.

Thank you

BTW, Nick, your mail gave me the false impression that this was a new offer. Googling around shows this to be incorrect. I believe the original challenge was issued even before the Dover trial (which settled this matter definitively in law). It's time for you people to pack it in.

Barry (to CSHOF) 3/24/2013 2:10:07 A.M.

I'm up for this. I will be arguing on the side of reason and sanity.

How is the Judge to be appointed?

Regards

Barry 3/24/2013 2:20 P.M.

What "takers"?

Anyway, we can all save a lot of time wasting and messing around. Just go here, http://www.evolutionarymodel.com/ervs.htm

I shall be forwarding my bank details so I can receive my $10,000 from you shortly.

Regards

Barry (to CSHOF) 3/24/2013 1:26:17 P.M.

Could you donate my $10,000 to the Khan Academy? https://www.khanacademy.org/donate Please ask them for a receipt and pass a copy to me.

Thank you

BTW, Nick, your mail gave me the false impression that this was a new offer. Googling around shows this to be incorrect. I believe the original challenge was issued even before the Dover trial (which settled this matter definitively in law). It's time for you people to pack it in.

Karl (to CSHOF and copy to Barry) 3/25/2013, at 2:57 P.M.

Barry is likely bluffing.

His "acceptance" is similar to others we heard regarding the LSP.

Barry 3/25/2013 7:57:17 P.M.

Care to try and justify that slimy insinuation, Kpriest?

Any response to this? http://www.evolutionarymodel.com/ervs.htm

I will engage you in a public forum on this topic without any preconditions. Are you up for it, or are you just as chicken as your precious Josie Masturbatio?

Karl 3/25/2013 9:10:17 P.M.

It is neither "slimy" or an insinuation.

It was a prediction.

If you accept the challenge, you will prove my prediction wrong.

Do you have anything to back up your brag that you "will be arguing on the side of reason and sanity"?

Karl 3/26/2013 1:43:33 P.M.

Your childishness is a shame. Are you really a 13-year old?

I waste very little time with hot air Internet evolutionists because the Life Science Prize PROVES they have no science.

But, for the sake of a friend of mine I'll do this:

Send me your three best proofs of evolution. I will respond. Case closed. Anyone who wants can read your proofs and my responses. They can make up their own minds.

Fire away Barry.

Karl

This will be my last correspondence with you on this subject.

Karl

http://www.insectman.us/getsaved.htm

Barry 3/26/2013 2:52:45 P.M.

I believe I have already sent you this link, http://www.evolutionarymodel.com/ervs.htm

Read it.

Barry 3/26/2013 3:35:36 A.M.

This matter has already been definitively legally settled by the Dover trial.

Would *you* care to discuss the evidence for common descent from endogenous retroviruses in an open forum, no strings attached? If not, why not?

Karl 3/26/2013 7:52:57 P.M.

I am not going to play your childish games.

Send your best three proofs of evolution. If that link contains your best three proofs, copy and paste them into your email.

Otherwise, do not bother to reply.

Barry 3/27/2013 1:10:17 A.M.

Does your device have a mouse or trackpad? Just move the cursor over the link and click. If you have trouble with opening the link, find a five-year-old to help you.

Karl 3/27/2013 8:50:00 A.M.

Bye Barry. You only have hot air. Ask a five year old to tell you what "do not bother to reply" means.

Barry 3/27/2013 8:55:46 A.M.

Bok! Bok! Bok! Bok! Bok!

http://www.evolutionarymodel.com/ervs.htm

Barry 3/27/2013 12:26:54 P.M

So have you visited the page I linked you to yet? It is more than enough to establish common descent beyond any sane level of doubt, but if you are determined to continue wasting your lives on your creationist nonsense, I guess it's up to you. Just stop trying to deceive the innocent and the unwary. It is irresponsible.

Barry 3/27/2013 2:44:31 P.M.

Interesting read about the miserable little tit you have allied yourself with: http://ncse.com/rncse/25/5-6/life-science-prize

Barry 3/28/2013 12:43:35 P.M.

You asked for three proofs. Well, Einstein famously said, in response to "100 scientists Against Einstein", "If I was wrong, one would be enough."

One is enough. Here is again, http://www.evolutionarymodel.com/ervs.htm Let me know if you have any questions.

I'm in a generous mood though. Here are two independent lines of evidence for an ancient universe and an ancient earth (and no global fllood). http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-add.html See

A6. The Distance to Supernova SN1987A and the Speed of Light

and

http://glennmortonspages.wikispaces.com/Glenn+Morton%27s+Pages+-+Home

Now don't shoot at the messenger. This is reality you are railing against. If there is anything you do not understand, I'd be delighted to try and help you. It is a crying shame when people fall into a mental trap and waste the rest of their lives, unable to get out without help.

All the best

Karl 3/28/2013 2:02:28 P.M.

I can go one-on-one posting links to websites. TalkOrigins is nothing but a propaganda outlet for true believers in evolutionism. Glen Morton is a compromising professing Christian.

Let's keep it simple. Are you saying that "Three Layers of Endogenous Retroviral" is your BEST proof of evolution ( microbes to man)? Be specific and I will give a specific rebuttal and we can both publish the correspondence and be done with it.

You see, belief in evolutionism is a heart--not a head--problem. If your heart is set on rejecting scientific FACTS that NOTHING is evolving and EVERYTHING is devolving, you will not be changed. Of course, you know that I will not be changed either, but I have OBSERVABLE science on my side. Our exchange will be intended to allow those who are sincere seekers to see what is the best that both sides have.

Barry 3/28/2013 3:06:59 P.M.

Enough of your drivel. Pay attention. ERVs are evidence of common descent, which falsifies creationism. Read the article, and come back on specifics, or concede, and cough up for the Khan Academy.

Karl 3/28/2013, at 11:35 P.M.

Barry's best proof of microbe to man evolution is "ERVs are evidence of common descent."

Karl's response: Viruses were, are, and always will be viruses. As in all living things, God designed ability for variation within limits. That is good design. For anyone wishing a more detailed explanation, see http://www.josephmastropaolo.com/data1.html .

Barry 3/28/2013 10:58:08 P.M.

Creationist dishonesty. By their fruits you will know them. You know very well that I never claimed that ERVs were evidence of "microbes to man evolution".

But can you explain why you and I share so many apparently orthologous endogenous retroviruses with Charlie the chimp, other than by endogenization in common ancestors? Of course you can't, which is why you are forced to ignore the evidence and resort to dishonest tactics.

Can you explain how the speed of light could have varied, yet apparent pulsar rates have not, just as we would expect them to had the speed of light remained constant, thus bearing witness to an ancient universe? Of course you can't, which is why you have to ignore the evidence.

Can you explain why thousands of lake varves correlate with carbon isotope ratios just as if they were deposited annually, serenely unaffected by a global flood last that is supposed to have happened last Thursday from a geological perspective? Of course you can't. Your beliefs have rendered you incapable even of simple counting.

Look at the evidence I sent you. You asked for it after all. If you don't understand it, ask me for explanations. But get your $10,000 ready, or be prepared to be exposed as thorough scoundrels.

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I did not reply. Barry is a perfect example of self-worshipers who have the fanatical desire to defend their St. Darwin and blow endless hot air on the Internet. The Life Science Prize proves they do not have any science because EVOLUTION IS A LIE.

See why evolutionists hate to debate.